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Title: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: Outback2 on April 26, 2003, 03:14:44 AM
Hello everyone, I have been to the gorge several times now and have only gone two nights and haven't covered a lot of distance. For my next trip(5 days)  I was thinking of starting at Wildcat then turning north onto swift camp creek, cross the road, then follow the sheltowee up to the northern terminus in Menifee county. Does anyone know the mileage, or has hiked,  this part of the sheltowee between those two points? any info would help, thanks
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: Thumper on April 26, 2003, 12:30:52 PM
I dunno, but I've been daydreaming about a similar hike myself and look forward to reading the replies. And welcome!
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: timbros on April 28, 2003, 02:05:07 PM
Where do you want to end?  The northern terminus is up near Morehead.  that would be quite a long hike with several sections of road.  How many miles do you want to cover?  You can get to The top of corner ridge north of the gorge before you have to hit pavement.
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: Outback2 on April 28, 2003, 06:23:50 PM
I want to end at the corner ridge road parking area, as far as mileage goes, I would like to do around 24 miles, 6 or so miles a day. I just want to make sure this hike is feasible in 5 days, 4 nights, with plenty of time for relaxing to.
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: I.B.ME on April 28, 2003, 07:14:50 PM
That is a relaxing pace alright.  Most would get bored at 6 miles per day.  That would just be walking full out for 2 to 2 1/2 hours per day?  I'm not knocking it, I just can't hold myself back that much.  I want to know what is over the next hill once this spot has been explored.

I still don't understand where you are starting and ending.  If you can be specific I will be glad to help.  As will many others

Welcome to the site.  Glad your here.
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: keith on April 28, 2003, 08:17:23 PM
I believe I wrote a TR on the 8-10 mile stretch of trail including the northern terminus.  I tried to search for it, but didn't find it.  Maybe I didn't write it.  Hell, maybe I didn't even hike it...
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: Arthur on April 28, 2003, 11:01:16 PM
sorry keith.  It never got wrote, but you did hike it, I was there.  Unless neither of us hiked it.
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: keith on April 28, 2003, 11:47:54 PM
Damn that's weird.  I coulda swore I wrote it.  We got pics, though... right?
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: Arthur on April 29, 2003, 12:40:45 AM
oh yeah, I got pics.
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: Outback2 on April 29, 2003, 06:20:45 AM
I want to start at wildcat, hike that until it reaches swift camp creek, get on camp creek and go north ,then west, passing by the Calaboose region,  cross 715 then proceed on Sheltowee, cross the supension bridge, pass by Indian Staircase, then go north into the upper clifty wilderness then end right where the clifty area stops, I believe it's corner ridge road, I know 6 miles a day is taking it easy, but I am going with my dad who hasn't been backpacking a whole lot, sorry if that seems lame to you guys
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: I.B.ME on April 29, 2003, 11:36:14 AM
Not lame to me.  Glad your taking your dad.  Mine is in too bad shape to walk to the mail box.  He is just getting over bypass surgery.  Maybe my son will take me some day.  

What threw me was your reference to the N. terminus.  The N. terminus it about 65 miles north of where you are going to get out and as Timbros was saying includes many miles of road walking (ick).

The trip you reference would be a good one and I am sure someone has written a TR on that section.  If no one responds in the next day or so I will look for my notes on it.
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: timbros on April 29, 2003, 11:38:15 AM
Outback,

As long as you have fun and enjoy yourself it's not lame, it's awsome!  I wish I could get my dad to hike with me!

I can't count the number of times I didn't go far at all because I just wanted to hang out in a beautiful spot all day!

I'll get back to you on the milage.
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: js on April 29, 2003, 01:36:31 PM
Yeah, there have been days where I didn't go over two miles or so a day.  There are some spots in the Gorge where there's an entire day's worth or more of cool things to see in just a couple thousand yards.  Some might call that lazy, some might say that's not really backpacking, but you know what?  As long as you're having fun, who gives a damn?  If I'm trying to cover a lot of distance or trying to get to a particular spot in a certain timeframe, I miss out on a lot of stuff.  To me, backpacking is about leaving behind schedules and all that shit, and just relaxing and wandering about.  Whatever pace is comfortable is cool.

I take my grandpa with me a bit, though I generally try to stick to easy trails and I carry all his gear.  On days like that I have to keep the mileage down, not only for him but for the fact that I'm carrying so much extra gear.
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: timbros on April 30, 2003, 11:41:30 AM
Outback2,

Here is an unofficial estimate of the milage:

Wildcat Parking area to Swift Camp Creek     2.0 mi
Swift Camp Creek to 715                                2.9 mi
715 to Chimney Top Rd                                   1.8 mi
Chimney Top Rd to Suspension Bridge            3.0 mi
Suspension Bridge to Gladie Creek at Salt Fk  4.5 mi
Cladie Creek to Corner Ridge Rd                      2.5 mi
Total                                                                  16.7 mi

That does not include side trips to Indian Staircase Cloud Splitter, etc.  Also it is inaccurate being I couldn't find good milage I measured the trail with my little "map wheel".  I called the FS but they told me they couldn't give me an answer till Friday.  I guess you get what you pay for with Government help........
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: Thumper on April 30, 2003, 01:20:38 PM
I just did a quick thumb-through of the Sierra Club's guide to the RRG; it looks like timbros' estimates match up pretty close with theirs.
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: Outback2 on April 30, 2003, 01:43:44 PM
Hey Timbros, I really appreciate your help with the mileage, that looks about right to me too. 16 or so miles is definitely what I am looking for. As anyone hiked up the Douglas Trail to the Upper Red? can you still walk along the river or does it turn into a huge ravine making it impossible to walk along the water's edge. I know it turns into some pretty wild rapids so I'm thinking you have to go on a ridgetop and look down into a ravine to see it.
Title: Re: Sheltowee trail through gorge
Post by: timbros on April 30, 2003, 01:45:24 PM
You can walk along the river all the way to Clifty Creek on the Douglass Trail.