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I.B.ME

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Coleman canoe repair
« on: March 14, 2008, 11:58:28 AM »

I need help!

Does anyone know what can be used to patch a plastic (HDPE) Coleman canoe?

We have tried several substances with limited success.

Rick
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Re: Coleman canoe repair
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2008, 05:30:18 PM »

have you tried a fiberglass repair kit. I'm not into canoeing, but this may work
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Re: Coleman canoe repair
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2008, 06:58:23 PM »

HDPE or (  High Density Polyethylene )  plastic is repairable ,but it has to be welded.....hardly anything will stick to it at all........So it may not be worth the effort if it's an old canoe..
 Unless you know of a place that does this kind of work.......Hope this helps?
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Re: Coleman canoe repair
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2008, 09:50:47 PM »

Try Quik Steel or JB Weld!!!!!!
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Re: Coleman canoe repair
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2008, 05:54:39 AM »

First-- did you "google" for
coleman canoe repair???
There are lots of hits including this one--
http://www.finishing.com/121/82.shtml
One guy in that thread says he works in thermoplastics and glue
is not an option.
Most threads suggest some sort of welding- ie  heat to
melt the crack or hole shut possibly using a patch of similar
material.
Have you contacted coleman???
One guy says coleman has suggestions for repairs but he
didn't say what they were.

Finally you don't say what kind of damage you have....
big, small, puncture, crack.....
There's always the metal patch method--
Aluminum or copper patch with plenty of caulking underneath
that's been pop riveted in place.
Ugly but functional.

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Re: Coleman canoe repair
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2008, 12:18:21 PM »

Here is the rest of the story as Paul Harvey says...
Our scout troop borrowed canoes from another.
One of the canoes fell from the trailer at some speed and ground the bottom rib until a couple of holes appeared.  They are small 1/4" x 2" so we did the internet search and have tried several adhesives suggested but we have not found anything to stick permanently to the HDPE.  We have not tried welding but a physical patch is our next option.  The location makes the physical patch possible but we were trying to maintain some sort of asthetics...

BTW black majic roofing adhesive/flashing caulk sold at Lowes in the caulking tubes is the best so far.

I thought I would tap the great minds of KYWILDERNESS before patching with aluminum inside and out sanwiching black magic using brads or small fasteners.

Rick
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Re: Coleman canoe repair
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2008, 01:17:58 PM »

I stumbled across the attached forum searching for an answer to your question.
http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/showthread.php?t=4253

 Looks like some pretty good options for repair  are suggested.
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Re: Coleman canoe repair
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2008, 01:41:58 PM »

Thanks justaddwater,
We had found that site and tried the sitkaflex and it peels off when cured.  It is a silicone base and would be a good temporary fix but not good for the long haul.  The small keel must be more abraision resistant then other areas of the canoe that "Frank" guy must be patching.

We did not try the sewing method described but I may try it on a scrap piece before resorting to the aluminum patch.
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Re: Coleman canoe repair
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2008, 06:56:55 PM »

If you come across a good repair let me know, I've got a Coleman canoe myself and would like to know how to repair it if needed.
 If you haven't already looked at paddling.net you can do a search and read an old thread where they discuss this same subject. There are some suggestions here in between the disparaging remarks towards anyone lowly enough (like me) to own one to begin with.
 Bet they really laugh when they see my '88 station wagon with my plastic boat tied to the luggage rack. What a gift to spread cheer everywhere I go.
 I would probably try the layered, heated duct tape method but that's because I'm lazy and cheap.
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Re: Coleman canoe repair
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2008, 11:16:07 AM »

I was not on the ill fated canoe trip.  The canoe fell off on the way to the river, so the leaders just patched it with gorilla tape and it held fine.  So my advice if you float a coleman is to keep a roll handy or just tie the canoe on securely...

I have had my coleman for twenty plus years and have not had to patch it.  It does have some deep scratches but no leaks.  If I had waited to afford an old towne or better, I would have missed some great trips.  
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Re: Coleman canoe repair
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2008, 09:34:36 AM »

I'm going to buy a Coleman, Olde Towne or Pelican kayak really soon.... yeah I know I've been saying that for a year now, but this is the year!  ;D
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Re: Coleman canoe repair
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2008, 08:10:58 PM »

I've used this patch kit before.

http://www.oakorchardcanoe.com/repair.php

You flame around the repair area before you use the epoxy.  This opens the plastic up to allowfor the epoxy to bond.  i used it on an old pelican boat.

Beware, the stuff gets real messy and sets relatively quick.
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Re: Coleman canoe repair
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2008, 09:28:37 AM »

Thanks Forester.  I knew there had to be a product out there somewhere.  Too many canoes/kayaks made out of the stuff to not be able to fix one.

Thanks again,
Rick
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Re: Coleman canoe repair
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2008, 02:56:52 PM »

We patched the canoe with the oakorchard product and it sticks great.

I would caution you not to attempt to use up the remainer of the product on areas not properly prepared ie. sanded and torched.  The unprepared areas peeled easily but the test area properly prepared would not separate.

I will be testing the repair in July and report back if problems occour.

Thanks for the tip Forester,

Rick
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Re: Coleman canoe repair
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2008, 04:59:52 PM »

i think you might be wasting money and time on those inferior products, i mean, if duct tape won't fix it, then it can't be fixed.  i can't belive canoes aren't constructed of duct tape anyway!

seriously, good luck with the test run.
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