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Title: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: RCKT_RCCN on November 17, 2017, 09:30:51 AM
Hello friends,

I come to you all today seeking help in a passion project. I am a lifelong resident of central Kentucky. For years I've lamented that I had to drive 2+ hours to reach the many destinations we all hold dear - Red River Gorge, Big South Fork, Land Between the Lakes, etc. I've wondered to myself, why doesn't Central Kentucky have more to show for itself? I took it upon myself to begin studying more carefully my local hills and hollers in search of features and destinations worthy of exploration.

To aid in the search, I created artificial boundaries to define the region in question:
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You may disagree with my delineation, and we can discuss that on another thread. My interest here is to uncover the potential contained in my beloved Central Kentucky. So I am turning to you folks. Who knows our state better than the seasoned explorers of kywilderness.com? Who is more qualified to aid me in my quest? Who has been farther or wider or deeper or longer than the intrepid tribe found here? No one comes close. Each of you is a master adventurer with knowledge to share and stories to tell.

My fellow travelers, will you help me in this endeavor? Will you impart knowledge of the often overlooked heartland of our great state? I must pause to thank ShifuCareaga, who has done much already through his hidden treasures. But I am looking to expand on the fine work he has done. Will you help me?

Here's what I'm looking for:

Gravel Roads
Scenic routes
Waterfalls
Trails
Country Stores
Quaint towns
Scenic Vistas
Caves
Arches
Stream crossings
Blue streams
Nature Preserves

And more. A little bit of everything and anything that one might wish to visit for a day. Places that capture the imagination. Give me your suggestions, I'll gladly take them all. As always, I'm happy to use discretion as you see fit. If you wish to PM me and request the privacy and confidentiality of a place then I'm glad to oblige.

To close out my lengthy request, let me leave you with a small taste of what central Kentucky has to offer, and why I believe it deserves more attention:

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Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: Mark W on November 17, 2017, 08:30:21 PM
Wish I could help, but haven't done much exploring in that area. I've been taken to some amazing places in Mammoth Cave National Park (and looks like at least one place you've been, too) and have stumbled upon some neat karst features in the backcountry there, but nothing I'd really feel worth is going out of your way to see. Paddling the Green River at the right water level and exploring up side streams to springs is pretty cool . . . some really neat "blue hole" features along the way. Makes a good two to three day night trip if you take your time.

I've seen pictures of some incredible stuff on private property in Hart County, but that doesn't help you much.

I think that central Kentucky is an absolutely phenomenal landscape, but it is mostly private property so that makes it hard to easily appreciate in the more intimate way that we are often so easily afforded along the Cumberland Plateau.

Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: RCKT_RCCN on November 18, 2017, 07:18:37 AM
Mark thanks so much for responding, and I am afraid that youíre exactly right. Central Kentucky suffers from the lack of public lands to explore. However, I do think there are some places that maybe donít receive much attention but have potential.

This is why I need your allís help. Whoís hiked at some of the state parks and state forests? Has anyone explored the WMAs or state nature preserves? What about the parks in and around Louisville - Jefferson Memorial, Parklands of the Floyds Fork, Otter Creek, Bernheim, Knobs State Forest? I have even heard whispers that there are a few spots to boulder in one of those parks.

But I also really want to know about driving. Where are the fantastic back roads - paved or gravel? And I know there are some gravel roads worth the drive. I can think of at least three that rival any forest road in the Daniel Boone.

And what about the paddling? We may not talk about water sports around here much but I am sure there are worthwhile floats in CKy. Mark already mentioned paddling the Green thru Mammoth Cave. Where else do you guys recommend?

Maybe my request is too broad, perhaps I would have been better served to break it into specific discussions. But my heart is to see kywilderness.com be more than just constant discussion about the  Red River Gorge and the Daniel Boone National Forest (hyperbole). We are spoiled with a rich and diverse state filled with splendid natural resources, letís talk all the places!

Thanks again, rant #2 over. If the thread doesnít go anywhere Iíll gracefully leave you guys alone. At least for a little while.  :P

Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: copper creek on November 18, 2017, 04:43:19 PM
Along the Kentucky River I've enjoyed hiking in Jessamine Creek Gorge, Sally Brown NP, Dupree NP, Tom Dorman NP, Raven Run, Floracliff, and Lower Howard's Creek (just outside your zone).  All are have relatively short but enjoyable day hikes.

If Berea is in your zone, then Indian Fort Mountain and Anglin Falls in the John B. Stephenson NP are very nice.

I've hiked at Vernon-Douglas Nature Preserve, Taylorsville Lake Trails, and Bernheim Forest once each.  I'd like to do more at Bernheim.

There is a short Kayak trip along the KY River, under High Bridge, and up the Dix River to the dam that's nice.

If I lived closer, I'd spend time exploring Mammoth Cave, and as Mark said, Kayak the Green River.







Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: Bazinga on November 19, 2017, 08:27:24 AM
I grew up in SW Jefferson County in the 60's & 70's (yes, I'm that old), we consider Otter Creek "our" park.  I spent many days picnic-ing with my parents, later with my school buddies (and senior cut day LOL!!), my adult friends and our children and most recently with 7 year old Luna-pup (where she took her 1st swim).  It has changed alot in 50 years, not necessarily for the best.  There is a small cave by an old rock quarry, but no longer allowed to enter (gated and locked).  I've posted a pic of an overlook on the trail of the Ohio River.  There are some nice cliffs down the creek (no pics though, don't take my camera creek walking).

I spent lots of time as a teen out by Jefferson Memorial Forest, before it was a metro park.  Most trails are beautiful forest hikes.  Scottís Gap has an overlook of farm land at the end of the short loop.  Horine section has Mitchell lake, a rental building with a view of Louisville from the back patio and the camp ground.  Yost area has several nice hikes 1-5 miles although some are shared horse trails.  Siltstone trail is a little over 6 mile hike (one way) but it crosses two roads and if you know where to leave the trail, there is a small window.  There are some unofficial trails that lead to overlooks and rock features. Found many caches placed by geocaching groups.  Metro parks recently acquired the Moreman area, but as of now it is undeveloped (future plans include horse and bike trails). 

The low grade at Fort Duffield makes an easy hike, but most trails are shared bike trails.  Once on top there are some recreated civil war buildings and a couple of overlooks of the Salt River, but the view includes the power plant and Ohio Valley Raceway.  The trailhead for the bridges to the past is near by.

Brandenburg City Park a nice picnic area by the river with a view of the Mauckport Bridge and a paved trail to Buttermilk Falls.

McNeely lake, in my younger days, used to have one of the large slides (I still have a few burn scars).  Today you can hike & fish.

Bernheim is nice, admission on weekends and holidays, very popular but not trashed.

Fairmount falls is really nice and only short walk from the parking lot.  Not too trashed because of limited access (call to get combination to the gate). 

Iroquois park (there is a nifty overlook of Louisville at the last overlook on the upper loop). 

Tioga Fall is beautiful but because of easy access itís totally trashed. 

Cherokee park has a creek and swimming hole.

There are hiking trails and a lake at Waverly Park.

Rough River SRP has fishing, boating, and swimming.

I havenít visited Guist Creek Lake or Elk Horn Creek. 

Oh yeah, Iíve been to Munchkinsville, a community of small buildings (originally thought it was the home of midgets/dwarves, but it was a camp for something).  A couple of other odd places, The grave yard at Hot Rod Haven, the body chute at Waverly Hills Sanatorium, and last but not least the Pope Lick goat man at the train trestle.  LOL!!
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: FallenArches on November 20, 2017, 09:36:49 AM
I live just a few miles from the geographic center of Kentucky, and have been to most of the places mentioned. 

The Asbury Nature trails are nice.

If your a history buff, the walking tour at Perryville Battlefield is interesting.  I highly recommend it.  You get a different feeling walking up hillsides where you know hundreds of men died. 

The Central Kentucky Wildlife Management Area in the Parksburg/Mitchellsburg area is nice. 

Shakertown has some good hikes, and as previously mentioned, is a good put in/take out point for a great paddle up the Kentucky and Dix Rivers.  Get your trout stamp and take a fly rod if you go.   

Bernheim Forest has been mentioned a couple of times, but I will add that it is also a great place to ride bikes, including the Jim Beam bike trail across the road.  Stop in the Jim Beam visitor center for a Basil Hayden Twist when you're finished.

I used to Geocache some, but probably haven't looked for a "cache" in 4-5 years now.  But when I was a subscribed Member ($25 / year), we would visit lots of interesting places I otherwise would not have known about.  Small caves off of the side of roads, little known historical spots, vistas, etc.  I used to keep a handheld GPS with me whenever we had to "leave town" for any reason.  Wherever we went, there was usually something interesting nearby to find.  You can travel a lot of backroads looking for these things if you just want a casual Sunday afternoon drive.
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: RCKT_RCCN on November 20, 2017, 10:05:14 AM
See, you guys are amazing. It's exactly what I hoped for! Copper Creek, Bazinga, FallenArches, y'all made my day.

Copper creek you mentioned Vernon-Douglas SNP, I drive by on the bluegrass everyday. So many times I've wanted to stop but never build in enough time for the hike. Very rarely do I even see cars at the trailhead. I've got to take advantage of that soon.

Bazinga I must know more about Munchkinsville! Pictures??

FallenArches, you live in Marion County (although Taylor claims to be the center as well)? I'm your neighbor, resident of Nelson County.

Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: FallenArches on November 20, 2017, 12:23:59 PM
Actually, I live in Washington County.  Marion County claims the geographic center, just across the Washington County line off of Hwy 429.  Taylor may also make a claim.  Given the shape of Kentucky, the geographic center is probably tough to figure.  Especially when the northern border used to shift as the Ohio River changed. 

You and I share a river I'm sure you have floated before.  I won't mention it by name so google search won't find this conversation.  I didn't include it in my reply because the most popular section is getting too crowded for my enjoyment.  It seems everybody has a kayak now.  It also had some pretty good fishing, until the otters were re-introduced in the 90's. 

Over this same river, in Washington County in the Chaplin area of the Washington-Nelson border, they are currently restoring the old covered bridge.  The process has been going on for over a year now, they're not far from wrapping it up.  Interesting work and worth checking out if you're nearby.   Some company from the Northeast, I think, that specializes in restoring old bridges.  A small group that brings a couple or so RV's to the site and just lives there until the job is finished.  Sounds like  a cool profession.
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: RCKT_RCCN on November 20, 2017, 12:54:04 PM
Washington County is my homeland, my grandfather is from the Chaplin area. Graduate of Chaplin High, back when every little community had its own school system.

Funny you should mention the covered bridge. I've been out there a couple times for work just to see how it's going. Those are some real neat guys. Hands like vice grips. If they aren't working they're very friendly. That project in particular was a multi-year ordeal. Incredible amount of time invested in one project. It's worth it though to maintain a piece of history. So many of our covered bridges were demo'ed over the years.

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Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: Mark W on November 20, 2017, 01:02:51 PM
I've heard really good things about Jones-Keeney Wildlife area. Also, Todd County Cliffs are supposed to be incredible but I think that's a bit far west for your boundaries.
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: RCKT_RCCN on November 20, 2017, 01:10:02 PM
I've heard really good things about Jones-Keeney Wildlife area. Also, Todd County Cliffs are supposed to be incredible but I think that's a bit far west for your boundaries.

I've never heard of the Todd County Cliffs. Adding to the research list. And yes, perhaps too far west, although I think the same treatment could be given to western Kentucky that I desire for the central region.
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: ShifuCareaga on November 24, 2017, 07:19:09 PM
looks at www.hiddendestinationsky.com (http://www.hiddendestinationsky.com)

got ya covered bro. that's my contributions. it even opens on your phone app.

Just let me know what isn't there, so I can improve the map.

Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: RCKT_RCCN on November 27, 2017, 11:53:07 AM
looks at www.hiddendestinationsky.com (http://www.hiddendestinationsky.com)

got ya covered bro. that's my contributions. it even opens on your phone app.

Just let me know what isn't there, so I can improve the map.



Thanks! I knew you would come through!  ;)
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: Cliftyman on May 18, 2018, 02:49:45 PM
I really should hang out on this site again!

What an awesome topic... this is what its all about, throwing yourself head-first into where you live and sharing it with others.

I grew up right in the middle of what you are calling Central KY (about 15 miles southwest of Elizabethtown), even though I wouldn't call it Central KY (to me that starts east of the rolling fork of the salt river), I'll still help you out ; )

Here is a list of stuff I can think of that's cool:
- Green Farm/Falls of Rough/Rough River
- numerous grist mill dams (remnants) on Nolin River... Spurrier, Star Mills, Millerstown, White Mills and Wheelers Mill
- Bylew Holler in Mammoth Cave NP
- Indian Creek... west of Highway 185 on Green River
- Greencastle Damn/Lock 1 Barren river
- Shanty Hollow lake (two waterfalls)
- Drakes Creek/Trammel Creek kayaking
- The drive through Logsdon Valley in Hart Co. KY (Amish country)
- Stab, KY (Short Creek)
- Natural Arch (and the road that goes out to the end of the ridge past the parking area)
- Highway 92 from Monticello to Yamacraw (awesome in the fall)
- I'm pretty based, but Cemetery Road from Bowling Green to Port Oliver on Barren River is beautiful and if you are a Mountain Biker there is a sick trail waiting for you
- Brier Creek Trail (MTB)
- Big Hollow Trail (MTB)
- Low Hollow Trail (right in Bowling Green)
- Doe Run Inn, wait till the creek is flowing good
- Grayson Springs in Grayson co. (neat little place with some history)
- The drive from Brownsville, KY through Mohawk to Chalybeate... there is a wet season waterfall on a cliff face on the side of the road that looks to be around 80 feet

List could go on and on man..... lol :)
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: RCKT_RCCN on May 18, 2018, 03:08:06 PM
YES!! So glad Cliftyman is back for this wonderful contribution. :)
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: ShifuCareaga on May 18, 2018, 08:17:20 PM
YES!! So glad Cliftyman is back for this wonderful contribution. :)
me, too
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: ShifuCareaga on May 26, 2018, 08:16:12 PM
RCCT, do you know about Dry Fork Gorge, and about Clay Hill Memorial Forest?
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: RCKT_RCCN on May 26, 2018, 09:09:04 PM
I know nothing of this Dry Fork Gorge, but anything with gorge in the name has my attention!

Iíve been to Clay Hill Memorial albeit only briefly.
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: onemansadventure on May 27, 2018, 02:04:16 PM
I haven't personally been to Dry Fork Gorge but been on my list for a while now.  Talked to someone who has been there and pictures show it as a worthy place to check out.

One of your pictures appears to be First Creek Rockshelter, so I assume you know the wonders there.  Blue Springs Hollow next to that is incredible as well if you haven't been.  Loaded with arches and waterfalls after big rains.  Bylew Hollow is really nice, that Cliftyman mentioned.  I've never been to the large rockshelter in Bylew Hollow but an old-time caver from Western Kentucky told me it the largest in the state that he knew of.  Or the largest in Western Kentucky at least.  There some arches (span type) and several waterfalls in that valley.  Just a nice area to hike and walk through the woods.   Mammoth Cave above ground is one of the most spectacular places in the state.  The sandstone formations are just special there.  I am guessing Mark hasn't been to too many of them, cause they are worth going out of your way to see.  The park has over 50 documented arches within its boundary.  My current most favorite place in the state that I have witnessed is in the park, above ground.  Arches, waterfalls, hominy holes, petroglyphs, etc.  Just an amazing place.  I think of it as more Western Kentucky but since it in your area I'll include it here.  Private property near the park in both Hart and Edmonson Counties have some sweet places I have seen as well.  Again Petroglyphs, natural bridges, sandstone caves, large arches and nice waterfalls abound in that part of the state.

Grayson County has some neat caves and arch features.  The ones I've been to are on private property but just pulled up and asked and was allowed to visit.

Your map also includes Wayne County, which is just filled with some incredible places.  Again mostly private property, but to list a few:
Jock Falls
Town Creek Falls (Several drops)
One of the older intact furnaces
Several caves in Monticello with arches at the openings.
Ritner is all private property and should be part of Daniel Boone.  Arches and sandstone cliffs that make you think you are driving through the Red River Gorge.
Around 100 or more documented arches in Wayne County.  I have documented a slew of waterfalls as well.  Lake Cumberland is full of them.

Louisville area has a lot of waterfalls.
Otter Creek Park, WMA or whatever they are calling it nowadays is a nice place.  Have fished for trout there and the creek walking is nice and peaceful.  Use to be a Louisville City Park I believe.
Bernheim is a worthy place to explore.

Radcliff has Saunder Springs & Tioga Falls.

Within your Central Kentucky region, there are a ton of Nature Preserves, several of which have gorgeous waterfalls.

The Kentucky Palisade region is special.  Or referred to as the Kentucky River Gorge in the past, it is the only place out of 9 that was originally suggested to be State Parks that are not a State or National Park today.  If you have ever read Daniel Boone's account of travelling the Kentucky River, it will make you wish and beg for them to remove the dams and let this river flow free again. 
I have personally seen well north of a 100 waterfalls along the Palisades, even waterfalls that tumble over arches.  There are several decent sized limestone arches in that area.  Also, you have Devil's Pulpit & Chimney Rock along the river that is a site to see.  Look up old pictures with people standing on it.  Craziness!

The Palisades: "On either side the soluble Ordovician limestone present most interesting geological phenomena: caves, candlesticks, rock chimneys, rock houses, rock windows and doors, calcareous falls, trails, and springs--all an inspiration to the nature lover."

I'd be willing to guess that there are possibly more waterfalls, or close to as many along the Kentucky River Palisades than in Daniel Boone National Forest.  I have been on streams with north of 20 distinct separate falls on them as they tumble to the Kentucky River.  The only problem is the whole area is almost exclusively private property.
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: ShifuCareaga on May 29, 2018, 12:59:54 PM
A couple new things in there for me to look into!

Heard a new one for me. If anyone has information about a 2'O'clock springs, please PM me!  Thanks 1man you're a 1man force!
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: RCKT_RCCN on May 30, 2018, 10:53:58 AM
  Thanks 1man you're a 1man force!

I concur! Awesome addition onemansadventure!
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: FallenArches on May 31, 2018, 03:34:26 PM
Because I had the rare (as in never before) work occasion that required me to drive by Scott's Ridge, I figured why not stop and snap a picture for this thread.  This is between Raywick and the Marion-Taylor county line.  That is the Rolling Fork River below. 

Not a very good photo, but gives you the general idea.
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: ShifuCareaga on June 03, 2018, 10:00:49 PM
A very good area. Remote enough.

btw I want to put a plug in for two roads this fall for you guys:

KY100 way down in southern KY from Barren River Lake east
and KY412 if you like a wide angle and driving a bit fast  >:D
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: Cliftyman on June 06, 2018, 11:14:46 AM
A little more on Bylew Holler in Mammoth Cave....

That area is incredible.  Its kinda like BSF or RRG'ish in Western KY.  Actually I'd say its the ONLY place like that in the Western part of the state.

The problem with it is access sucks.  Even though its park land you pretty much have to park at the Job Corp to get in which raises eyebrows.

I think I have a solution though... with the rip-out of the Brownsville Dam the river is no free flowing.  I was planning on doing a paddle trip from Nolin Lake tailwater to Brownsville and taking out at Bylew Creek to visit Flea Cave Falls (that giant rock-shelter you guys were discussing).

Problem is the river is full of strainers since the draw down of removing the dam.  I discussed with a guy on Meetup about it... he said the corp was going to have to take a pontoon and chainsaw just to get the river passable.

Anyway Mammoth Cave area is loaded.  The northside of the river is where the action is... First Creek Drainage, Bylew Holler and some other large hollers on the north side draining into the Green... NO ONE goes up there except for horsers for the most part.  You guys get out there and change that!

Oh yeah, there is a nice arch just downstream from Nolin Dam... I'll let you find it, its on the west side of the river about 1.5 mile downstream.
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: onemansadventure on June 07, 2018, 09:30:10 AM
Oh yeah, there is a nice arch just downstream from Nolin Dam... I'll let you find it, its on the west side of the river about 1.5 mile downstream.
A very nice arch indeed.  Last time I was there there were some large pot holes from digging for artifacts.  Of course it is private property so...

Also the river is a mess.  I've hiked along it since the dam was breached.  Other than all the porting that is currently required is the fact that the banks are steep mud slopes.
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: Cliftyman on June 07, 2018, 10:00:36 AM
Oh yeah, there is a nice arch just downstream from Nolin Dam... I'll let you find it, its on the west side of the river about 1.5 mile downstream.
A very nice arch indeed.  Last time I was there there were some large pot holes from digging for artifacts.  Of course it is private property so...

Also the river is a mess.  I've hiked along it since the dam was breached.  Other than all the porting that is currently required is the fact that the banks are steep mud slopes.

Are you in South Central KY?  You sound like you might be a local if you are hiking along Nolin.....  I'm in Bowling Green if you wanna do some hiking (or MTB'ing?)
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: onemansadventure on June 07, 2018, 01:24:17 PM
Are you in South Central KY?  You sound like you might be a local if you are hiking along Nolin.....  I'm in Bowling Green if you wanna do some hiking (or MTB'ing?)
Nope, Northern Kentucky, just know the right people that are local to Edmonson County that have told or shown me some of the features there.  I spent a lot of the 2016-2017 winter exploring Mammoth Cave off trail in that part of the park.  Did a little bit this past winter, but not much.

This is the arch I think you were referring to:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-wRcVkTv/0/5ed503d0/M/i-wRcVkTv-M.jpg)

Others in that area:
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(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-2dwH5xf/0/d4b88e02/M/i-2dwH5xf-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-QvtZK7b/0/c1101c0a/M/i-QvtZK7b-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-jfLRxSp/0/1a497474/M/i-jfLRxSp-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-R9nxnV7/0/b1b4928b/M/i-R9nxnV7-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8kqxzqQ/0/4c803dcc/M/i-8kqxzqQ-M.jpg)

I'm missing a slew on my website.  I'd have to look at home for others I've been to.  There another 7 or 8 arches I've been to in that area as well as a really cool sandstone rockshelter.  Has arches inside it.

Falls:
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(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-j9mkstb/0/ababe7da/M/i-j9mkstb-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-MfmnBS2/0/b122b23c/M/i-MfmnBS2-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Tst5ZfK/0/f0f9b89f/M/i-Tst5ZfK-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-LDjtKXG/0/10985862/M/i-LDjtKXG-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-L3NWnJP/0/0ef07ca1/M/i-L3NWnJP-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-K4NP32v/0/be537bb1/M/i-K4NP32v-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-XmGvZ9p/1/5787f1be/M/i-XmGvZ9p-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8cM5tpN/0/32e61209/L/i-8cM5tpN-L.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-ftpVJS2/0/e4ac6091/M/i-ftpVJS2-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8R3c83B/0/c3287b95/M/i-8R3c83B-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-RKTWwjW/0/c5b5cfd3/M/i-RKTWwjW-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-dVFrgtj/0/91913575/M/i-dVFrgtj-M.jpg)

Flea Cave Hollow was not flowing that great when I was there and yet to go over to Robbins Branch.

Mammoth Cave is definitely underrated.  I don't bike, just hike, kayak or caving.





Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: ShifuCareaga on June 10, 2018, 08:41:59 PM
I agree, the more I got to Mammoth Cave, the less I ever go to the caves.
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: Mark W on June 12, 2018, 05:11:28 PM
Beautiful Mammoth Cave photos . . . I've been to most of those spots and they are just absolutely incredible. Here are a few photos, including one of a massive rockshelter:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7046/6972787363_c3c0ea0da0_z.jpg)

Note the person for scale.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5085/5365326834_5fb5b465f7_z.jpg)

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5167/5365324344_4aa2cc7e79_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: RCKT_RCCN on June 13, 2018, 09:54:19 AM
My humble little thread about Central Ky is all grown up. So many good posts lately! Thanks to Mark W and all the rest for the shared knowledge. I've got to get out there soon and explore some of these places!
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: AmblingAmos on June 13, 2018, 10:50:07 PM

(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8R3c83B/0/c3287b95/M/i-8R3c83B-M.jpg)


I knew I recognized this waterfall, so I had to going digging around in my own pictures.  In April of '15 there was a nice log washed in to take a break and enjoy the waterfall.  My daughter is sketching it in this picture.

Beautiful pictures and perfect color grade Onemansadventure! 
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: onemansadventure on June 14, 2018, 03:02:27 PM
I knew I recognized this waterfall, so I had to going digging around in my own pictures.  In April of '15 there was a nice log washed in to take a break and enjoy the waterfall.  My daughter is sketching it in this picture.

Beautiful pictures and perfect color grade Onemansadventure!

Thanks!  I believe my picture is from my trip there after Hurricane Harvey ran through the area.  Need lots of water.
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: ShifuCareaga on June 16, 2018, 10:58:39 PM
My humble little thread about Central Ky is all grown up. So many good posts lately! Thanks to Mark W and all the rest for the shared knowledge. I've got to get out there soon and explore some of these places!

IMO it's because this area of the state, like the KY River Palisades, is super under-rated.

I got some funny KRP pics today. More things just keep popping up. It's really mind blowing.  Central KY is the same way.  MY trip down to Barren River Lake a few weekends ago scored more A++ in a single shot than I think I've ever seen.  It really is an underappreciated area.  I'm still using photos from down there for Facebook, etc.. and I wrote an article for this month's AKHA newsletter using pics from that trip. I had as good a time there as I did in St. Louis.

Not to mention Central KY holds one of my favorite things: the Knobs. I really just love the knobs. The drive through Bradfordsville is a yearly thing for me. I have gone in different seasons to get different effects. It's so unique.
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: RCKT_RCCN on June 19, 2018, 09:24:43 AM

Not to mention Central KY holds one of my favorite things: the Knobs. I really just love the knobs. The drive through Bradfordsville is a yearly thing for me. I have gone in different seasons to get different effects. It's so unique.

Me too! I frequently day-dream about a long trail like the Sheltowee running across Central Kentucky through the knobs. How awesome would it be to start around Bernheim and be able to travel by foot to the Daniel Boone NF? I've seen master plans of similar trail networks across the state, but I'm doubtful I'll get to see it come to fruition in my lifetime. I read an article last week about access-issues with ranchers in Montana denying legal access to federal lands and I fear any attempt to build a long trail using easements would result in the same access-issues here. https://www.outsideonline.com/2263356/crazy-mountains (https://www.outsideonline.com/2263356/crazy-mountains)

But I'll still dare to day-dream.

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This is an example of what I have in mind. The orange is a Knobs Trail from Bernheim to near Mount Vernon. The green is a connector trail to Mammoth Cave.


Here's also a link to a news story about the master plan I referred to earlier:

http://www.kyforward.com/creating-a-long-distance-trail-in-kentucky-a-step-closer-to-reality-with-master-trail-plan/ (http://www.kyforward.com/creating-a-long-distance-trail-in-kentucky-a-step-closer-to-reality-with-master-trail-plan/)

http://ruraltransportation.org/cross-kentucky-master-trail-plan/ (http://ruraltransportation.org/cross-kentucky-master-trail-plan/)

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Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: RCKT_RCCN on June 25, 2018, 02:59:26 PM
I attempted to re-link the pictures from my previous post. Hopefully you guys can see them this time around. Holler if you're still having issues.
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: onemansadventure on June 26, 2018, 06:59:53 PM
I put this together a couple months ago, using available data (next to none) to pinpoint the location of the old Jenny Wiley Trail and throw it on the lidar data.

(http://kyarches.com/images/Jenny%20Wiley%20Trail.jpg)
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: ShifuCareaga on June 26, 2018, 09:27:45 PM
are you offering a download?

It's very nice, indeed. It must have taken awhile to put together the right information... I'd be down to purchase a copy even.
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: RCKT_RCCN on June 26, 2018, 09:40:24 PM
I put this together a couple months ago, using available data (next to none) to pinpoint the location of the old Jenny Wiley Trail and throw it on the lidar data.

Nice work! Looks really good. A lot better than doodling on google earth.  :P
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: RCKT_RCCN on August 31, 2018, 05:34:38 PM
A while back I stumbled upon a picture of a place called Lost Keys Cave in Green County. Anybody ever heard of it? Iíve been meaning to ask but keep forgetting. If I get some time Iíll try to find the picture again.
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: ShifuCareaga on September 05, 2018, 01:26:24 PM
A while back I stumbled upon a picture of a place called Lost Keys Cave in Green County. Anybody ever heard of it? Iíve been meaning to ask but keep forgetting. If I get some time Iíll try to find the picture again.

I assume you mean this? https://www.flickr.com/photos/chucksutherland/25821052052 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/chucksutherland/25821052052)
no but I want to go to there!
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: onemansadventure on September 05, 2018, 05:44:50 PM
A while back I stumbled upon a picture of a place called Lost Keys Cave in Green County. Anybody ever heard of it? Iíve been meaning to ask but keep forgetting. If I get some time Iíll try to find the picture again.

I assume you mean this? https://www.flickr.com/photos/chucksutherland/25821052052 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/chucksutherland/25821052052)
no but I want to go to there!

Haha, if that is it, then I was with Chuck when he took that photo.  It is roadside, yet fairly ugly if I am remembering correctly.  I'll go look at my pictures and report back. 
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: onemansadventure on September 05, 2018, 05:48:45 PM
Just an unedited quick pic I took back then.  This of the falls out of the cave.

(http://kyarches.com/images/supporting/Lost%20Key%20Cave.jpg)
Title: Re: Central Kentucky Features & Destinations
Post by: RCKT_RCCN on September 06, 2018, 08:42:35 AM
Ha! Yes thatís the one. And yes, Chuckís picture made it look super desirable. Amazing what good angles and photo editing can do for a place lol